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	<title>Comments on: The Appliance Builder That Isn&#8217;t</title>
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	<description>Because all the cool names are taken</description>
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		<title>By: evan</title>
		<link>http://ebroder.net/2009/11/10/the-appliance-builder-that-isnt/comment-page-1/#comment-7412</link>
		<dc:creator>evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 08:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t really define an appliance builder without just saying that, &quot;it&#039;s a software app for building appliances.&quot;

Appliance is something of a buzz word in the virtualization space these days. It basically refers to some application (like a database or web server) bundled together with an (usually minimal) operating system. They&#039;re designed for fast deployment, etc, etc, and they usually run as VMs.

The application distribution side of the appliance buzz doesn&#039;t really interest me, but in my mind, for appliances to be useful, they have to be quick and easy to assemble and so forth.

What I&#039;m really looking for is a generic VM autoinstaller, but &quot;appliance builder&quot; fits the lingo of the moment a little better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t really define an appliance builder without just saying that, &#8220;it&#8217;s a software app for building appliances.&#8221;</p>
<p>Appliance is something of a buzz word in the virtualization space these days. It basically refers to some application (like a database or web server) bundled together with an (usually minimal) operating system. They&#8217;re designed for fast deployment, etc, etc, and they usually run as VMs.</p>
<p>The application distribution side of the appliance buzz doesn&#8217;t really interest me, but in my mind, for appliances to be useful, they have to be quick and easy to assemble and so forth.</p>
<p>What I&#8217;m really looking for is a generic VM autoinstaller, but &#8220;appliance builder&#8221; fits the lingo of the moment a little better.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Riggle</title>
		<link>http://ebroder.net/2009/11/10/the-appliance-builder-that-isnt/comment-page-1/#comment-7408</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Riggle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 06:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the uninitiated, what&#039;s an appliance builder?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the uninitiated, what&#8217;s an appliance builder?</p>
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		<title>By: Continuing the Search for Appliance Builders &#171; θ theta &#8211; the nerd&#8217;s angle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Continuing the Search for Appliance Builders &#171; θ theta &#8211; the nerd&#8217;s angle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 05:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: evan</title>
		<link>http://ebroder.net/2009/11/10/the-appliance-builder-that-isnt/comment-page-1/#comment-6540</link>
		<dc:creator>evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; Certainly it will perfectly address the third point as well.

Yeah, good catch. I went back and added the first point at the end, because I wanted to be explicit about that. I meant that it addressed the first three, not the first two.

Some script that generates the preseed from other configuration is certainly a big piece of what&#039;s missing. I think ideally I want the appliance builder to also take responsibility for spinning up the VMs that actually run the install as well.

I&#039;m not saying this is a particularly challenging problem, just that nobody&#039;s solved it yet. &quot;Small matter of writing code&quot;, and so forth</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>> Certainly it will perfectly address the third point as well.</p>
<p>Yeah, good catch. I went back and added the first point at the end, because I wanted to be explicit about that. I meant that it addressed the first three, not the first two.</p>
<p>Some script that generates the preseed from other configuration is certainly a big piece of what&#8217;s missing. I think ideally I want the appliance builder to also take responsibility for spinning up the VMs that actually run the install as well.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying this is a particularly challenging problem, just that nobody&#8217;s solved it yet. &#8220;Small matter of writing code&#8221;, and so forth</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You say &quot;Simply booting the debian-installer or ubuntu-installer with a preseed file would certainly address the first two points.&quot;

Certainly it will perfectly address the third point as well.

So what&#039;s left?  The fourth point is that you don&#039;t want to write 20 lines of preseed.  That hardly seems like an insurmountable problem -- you could e.g. make a script that generates the preseed from some other configuration file that you design.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You say &#8220;Simply booting the debian-installer or ubuntu-installer with a preseed file would certainly address the first two points.&#8221;</p>
<p>Certainly it will perfectly address the third point as well.</p>
<p>So what&#8217;s left?  The fourth point is that you don&#8217;t want to write 20 lines of preseed.  That hardly seems like an insurmountable problem &#8212; you could e.g. make a script that generates the preseed from some other configuration file that you design.</p>
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